Vogue’s First Podcast Will Let You Know What Anna Wintour Really Thinks

Personally, and I can admit without feeling like a complete failure of an intellect, that I’ve never listened to a full podcast. And the only ones I’ve partially committed to have been comedy pop culture-parody bullshit. However, as much as I am one of those “fashion people” that tries in every way not to come off as one of those cliche “fashion people,” if you were to ask me what growing up made me realize my interest in fashion, it would be Rachel Zoe’s glamorous reality show (*welcome judgement here*) and Anna Wintour’s time as editor-and-cheif at American Vogue (because that well covers the only period that I’ve been alive for, if that doesn’t give away my age). So a Vogue podcast with Anna Wintour herself, hosted by the fabulous and buttery voice of the infamous Andre Leon Tally, say no more, my headphones are in.

The podcast takes you through a range of topics with Wintour and Tally, from the romanticism behind the famed September issue, to our progression over time of the African-American presence in the media, particularly women such as Naomi and Beyonce and their personal accomplishments, to Kanye’s inevitable announcement of his 2020 presidential campaign. The podcast opens with Wintour crediting the ever-present hype behind the September issue, which this year will be her 27th published with Vogue,  to R.J. Cutler’s documentary. This piece of information is much more interesting to you if you’re aware if the rumored convincing it took for Wintour to agree to the film in the first place, which she now expresses earned gratitude towards.

Of course, we’ve already covered the emotions we were overcame with when seeing our very own superwomen, Beyonce, appropriately gracing the cover this month, however, Wintour sheds light on her important history behind the magazine. When speaking of her first presentation of a September issue to the Conde Nast corporate board, she was washed in gasped responses to her decision to put a black women, none other then Naomi Campbell, on the cover. Despite the awareness that has been raised over the past couple years in the still early 21st century in regards to our failure to realize the extremely present issue of race in our country, we have progressed into a world that poses no question to seeing a woman of color on the cover of a fashion publication, and instead praises the individual accomplishments of that woman.

Wintour describes her process behind what Tally describes as “possibly the most Black issue” of the magazine, as something that wasn’t “consciously set out to represent Black culture, or Black politics, or race, it was something that all came together as they were working on it.” It’s obvious that race has been a circulated issue in America, specifically over the past year, and Wintour secures her seat behind the editors desk at Vogue by not only highlighting what’s happening in fashion, but what is happening in American culture, which is predominantly what effects the proficiently sponge-like worlds of fashion, art and politics.

It’s been said and heard plenty of times, by obviously a younger demographic, that Vogue is slipping through the fingers of it’s customer and is slowly becoming irrelevant in comparison to new and up-coming fashion publications, and more specifically, that it’s creative direction needs to be shifted. When you put a real voice behind Wintour’s stoic persona, it’s almost impossible to not believe everything she says or agree with her esteemed opinions. Yet, maybe there is a time and place for new-wave fashion and youth publications and that for the relevancy and more matured voice of American Vogue. Vogue, in fact was the first place I ever even heard of political peace-makers like Malala Yousafzai, not in school or from my parents. It’s refreshing to hear that there are still editors like Wintour, who read every piece that goes into their publication, and think about not only how it will be received by the fashion world, but how it will be received by the unexpected audience of, say, fourteen-year-old girls, possibly reading in the back of their dad’s pick-up truck in Phoenix, Arizona.

To hear the full podcast, including Wintour’s love for Ricardo Tisci, and her intentions to vote for Hilary Clinton in 2016, listen here first.

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